In the Change Room
In the Change Room is a weekly rugby podcast created by SuperSport and BrightRock. It features both a fun and serious weekly round-up of the local and global rugby scene, as well as in-depth interviews with rugby personalities.
17
OCT
Kolbe vs Matsushima, who said it & Imbokodo at Olympics
Will the player of the Rugby World Cup emerge when Japan meet the Springboks? In the Change Room this week, Motshidisi Mohono and Johan Coetzee are joined by former Bok Kaya Malotana. They discuss Japan vs South Africa, quarter-final tactics, play a new game and interview SA Women’s 7s coach Paul Delport about the Tokyo Olympics.
Listen out for...
+ “The Boks should bully Japan…”
+ Are Australia unfairly written off as underdogs against England?
+ Kolbe vs Matsushima: battle of the pocket-rockets
+ “Who said it?” – new game!
+ Half-Time Chat with Siv Ngesi snippet: Kyle Brown on why 7s was his best professional decision
+ Interview: Paul Delport on SA Women’s 7s Olympic qualification and the future
+ Castle supporters jersey giveaway*
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
Disclaimer: the views & opinions expressed on In the Change Room are solely those of the hosts. They do not reflect the views & opinions of their respective employers, affiliates or advertisers.
*Terms & Conditions:
This competition (“Promotion”) is run by In the Change Room Podcast (“Promoter”) and is open to all persons of 18 years or older and resident in South Africa, except the employees and their immediate families of Promoter, Promoter’s advertising and promotion agencies, associated companies, and outlet owners and staff.
These rules may be amended by notification at any time during the Promotion, and will be interpreted by Promoter only. Participation by all entrants (“Participants”) constitutes acceptance of these rules.
The Promotion runs from 17 October to 12pm on 22 October 2019 (“Competition Period”). Winners will be notified on 22 October and announced on 24 October (next episode publish date).
Only entries submitted to the WhatsApp line +27 60 921 6977 will be considered. Entries must be submitted by no later than 12pm on Tues 22 October. Normal data rates apply.
Sizes are limited and correct sizes are not guaranteed.
Listen out for...
+ “The Boks should bully Japan…”
+ Are Australia unfairly written off as underdogs against England?
+ Kolbe vs Matsushima: battle of the pocket-rockets
+ “Who said it?” – new game!
+ Half-Time Chat with Siv Ngesi snippet: Kyle Brown on why 7s was his best professional decision
+ Interview: Paul Delport on SA Women’s 7s Olympic qualification and the future
+ Castle supporters jersey giveaway*
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
Disclaimer: the views & opinions expressed on In the Change Room are solely those of the hosts. They do not reflect the views & opinions of their respective employers, affiliates or advertisers.
*Terms & Conditions:
This competition (“Promotion”) is run by In the Change Room Podcast (“Promoter”) and is open to all persons of 18 years or older and resident in South Africa, except the employees and their immediate families of Promoter, Promoter’s advertising and promotion agencies, associated companies, and outlet owners and staff.
These rules may be amended by notification at any time during the Promotion, and will be interpreted by Promoter only. Participation by all entrants (“Participants”) constitutes acceptance of these rules.
The Promotion runs from 17 October to 12pm on 22 October 2019 (“Competition Period”). Winners will be notified on 22 October and announced on 24 October (next episode publish date).
Only entries submitted to the WhatsApp line +27 60 921 6977 will be considered. Entries must be submitted by no later than 12pm on Tues 22 October. Normal data rates apply.
Sizes are limited and correct sizes are not guaranteed.
17
OCT
Half-time Chat with Siv Ngesi & Kyle Brown
“You are not rugby, rugby is not you, rugby is a part of you”
Holding accolades such as being the winner of 3x World Rugby Sevens Series titles, a gold medal from the 2014 Commonwealth Games and Bronze at 2016 Rio Olympics, sounds like a setup for life. But former Blitzboks captain, Kyle Brown, is candid about why most athletes struggle with life after rugby or professional sport.
In episode 7 of Half-Time Chat, Siv Ngesi gets insights on what helped Kyle persevere through injury and rehab, and how he’s navigating “the greatest season of change in his life”.
Also listen out for the secret reason Kyle walks around with spectacles on.
Quotes from Kyle Brown interview with Siv Ngesi:
• One of the best decisions of my life was to stay at Sevens
• Athletes are fundamentally unemployable
• A very small percentage of athletes earn a liveable salary
• Injuries are part of the game and you must accept it
• Just cos rugby is on hold doesn’t mean you are on hold as a person
Holding accolades such as being the winner of 3x World Rugby Sevens Series titles, a gold medal from the 2014 Commonwealth Games and Bronze at 2016 Rio Olympics, sounds like a setup for life. But former Blitzboks captain, Kyle Brown, is candid about why most athletes struggle with life after rugby or professional sport.
In episode 7 of Half-Time Chat, Siv Ngesi gets insights on what helped Kyle persevere through injury and rehab, and how he’s navigating “the greatest season of change in his life”.
Also listen out for the secret reason Kyle walks around with spectacles on.
Quotes from Kyle Brown interview with Siv Ngesi:
• One of the best decisions of my life was to stay at Sevens
• Athletes are fundamentally unemployable
• A very small percentage of athletes earn a liveable salary
• Injuries are part of the game and you must accept it
• Just cos rugby is on hold doesn’t mean you are on hold as a person
10
OCT
Springbok RWC lessons, that Potgieter tackle & Brits example
This is the players edition. In the Change Room this week former Boks Gcobani Bobo and Dewald Potgieter join Johan Coetzee. They discuss what the Springboks can learn from the Bulls about play-off rugby, Dewald’s Digby Ioane redemption, how to keep players in SA and planning for retirement.
Listen out for...
+ Boks have bought into identity and team culture
+ What the Springbok can learn from play-off Bulls
+ Change room talk: finding the ideal build-up for a game
+ Know the rules! The ignorance of World Cup red cards
+ “Waiting for Digby…” the Dewald Potgieter saga
+ Half-Time Chat with Siv Ngesi snippet: Ndungane twins talk about retirement
+ How to keep talent in SA: learning from the Saracens model
+ Does return of older Europe-based pros serve or hurt the local game?
+ Becoming Imbokodo: new 7s reality show & SA women’s sevens Olympic push
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
Disclaimer: the views & opinions expressed on In the Change Room are solely those of the hosts. They do not reflect the views & opinions of their respective employers, affiliates or advertisers.
Listen out for...
+ Boks have bought into identity and team culture
+ What the Springbok can learn from play-off Bulls
+ Change room talk: finding the ideal build-up for a game
+ Know the rules! The ignorance of World Cup red cards
+ “Waiting for Digby…” the Dewald Potgieter saga
+ Half-Time Chat with Siv Ngesi snippet: Ndungane twins talk about retirement
+ How to keep talent in SA: learning from the Saracens model
+ Does return of older Europe-based pros serve or hurt the local game?
+ Becoming Imbokodo: new 7s reality show & SA women’s sevens Olympic push
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
Disclaimer: the views & opinions expressed on In the Change Room are solely those of the hosts. They do not reflect the views & opinions of their respective employers, affiliates or advertisers.
10
OCT
Half-time Chat with Siv Ngesi & Ndungane twins
"You need to be mentally prepared when you move on after rugby"
Everything’s more fun in twos! The first set of twins to have played for the Springboks, Akona and Odwa Ndungane, have brought double the blessings, double the caps and double the rugby glory to their family.
In episode 6 of Half-Time Chat, Siv Ngesi asks the Ndungane twins about on-field rivalry, how to adapt to life on the other side of the rugby field, and whether it’s true that when one twin gets hurt, the other feels his pain.
And Akona spills the beans on a Border coach and a case of mistaken identity! Everything’s more fun in twos! The first set of twins to have played for the Springboks, Akona and Odwa Ndungane, have brought double the blessings, double the caps and double the rugby glory to their family.
In episode 6 of Half-Time Chat, Siv Ngesi asks the Ndungane twins about on-field rivalry, how to adapt to life on the other side of the rugby field, and whether it’s true that when one twin gets hurt, the other feels his pain.
And Akona spills the beans on a Border coach and a case of mistaken identity!
Quotes from the Ndungane twins interview with Siv Ngesi:
• Our parents didn’t know that you can make a career out of sport
• The coach saw Odwa and said “I want to sign you” - but he was actually looking for me
• My first cap for the Boks was not a game I’d like to remember but it was a special moment nonetheless
• Playing for the Springboks was special for our whole family
• He was one of those lazy wings who just wanted people to create for him
• For you to play over 100 caps for one union, you need to be discliplined, you need to work hard
• You need to be mentally prepared and have something you love to move onto after rugby.
• Nothing compares to living your dream and getting paid for it
• There’s more things in life than just being at Loftus.
Everything’s more fun in twos! The first set of twins to have played for the Springboks, Akona and Odwa Ndungane, have brought double the blessings, double the caps and double the rugby glory to their family.
In episode 6 of Half-Time Chat, Siv Ngesi asks the Ndungane twins about on-field rivalry, how to adapt to life on the other side of the rugby field, and whether it’s true that when one twin gets hurt, the other feels his pain.
And Akona spills the beans on a Border coach and a case of mistaken identity! Everything’s more fun in twos! The first set of twins to have played for the Springboks, Akona and Odwa Ndungane, have brought double the blessings, double the caps and double the rugby glory to their family.
In episode 6 of Half-Time Chat, Siv Ngesi asks the Ndungane twins about on-field rivalry, how to adapt to life on the other side of the rugby field, and whether it’s true that when one twin gets hurt, the other feels his pain.
And Akona spills the beans on a Border coach and a case of mistaken identity!
Quotes from the Ndungane twins interview with Siv Ngesi:
• Our parents didn’t know that you can make a career out of sport
• The coach saw Odwa and said “I want to sign you” - but he was actually looking for me
• My first cap for the Boks was not a game I’d like to remember but it was a special moment nonetheless
• Playing for the Springboks was special for our whole family
• He was one of those lazy wings who just wanted people to create for him
• For you to play over 100 caps for one union, you need to be discliplined, you need to work hard
• You need to be mentally prepared and have something you love to move onto after rugby.
• Nothing compares to living your dream and getting paid for it
• There’s more things in life than just being at Loftus.
03
OCT
Springbok upsets, Damian Willemse, Japan & stopping Lomu
Are the Springboks "upset-proof"? In the Change Room this week Kaunda Ntunja, Johan Coetzee and Simnikiwe Xabanisa share some "unpopular opinions", Japan at the Rugby World Cup and Sir Clive Woodward's guide to stopping the late great Jonah Lomu.
+ is Damian Willemse the right World Cup replacement for Jessie Kriel?
+ Springbok midfield makeup in question
+ Are the Springboks "upset-proof" against Italy? (11min potential quote)
+ Lest talk Japan...
+ "Springboks play better as the underdogs"
+ The game we all be watching, Japan vs Scotland
+ Half-Time Chat with Siv Ngesi snippet: Alyssa Conley switching from track to 7s
+ Siya Kolisi's importance to the psyche of SA rugby
+ Thinking grassroots rugby in the Eastern Cape
+ "with Tuilangi and the Vunipola brothers England can beat NZ in the semis" - Kaunda Ntunja
+ How to stop Jonah Lomu
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
Disclaimer: the views & opinions expressed on In the Change Room are solely those of the hosts. They do not reflect the views & opinions of their respective employers, affiliates or advertisers.
+ is Damian Willemse the right World Cup replacement for Jessie Kriel?
+ Springbok midfield makeup in question
+ Are the Springboks "upset-proof" against Italy? (11min potential quote)
+ Lest talk Japan...
+ "Springboks play better as the underdogs"
+ The game we all be watching, Japan vs Scotland
+ Half-Time Chat with Siv Ngesi snippet: Alyssa Conley switching from track to 7s
+ Siya Kolisi's importance to the psyche of SA rugby
+ Thinking grassroots rugby in the Eastern Cape
+ "with Tuilangi and the Vunipola brothers England can beat NZ in the semis" - Kaunda Ntunja
+ How to stop Jonah Lomu
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
Disclaimer: the views & opinions expressed on In the Change Room are solely those of the hosts. They do not reflect the views & opinions of their respective employers, affiliates or advertisers.
03
OCT
Half-time Chat with Siv & Alyssa Conley
"I’m not a sprinter anymore – I’m a rugby player"
Running in your own lane is one thing. Having to change lanes – at speed – is another thing. Fortunately, doing things at speed comes naturally to Alyssa Conley, a former 100m and 200m SA champion sprinter and Rio 2016 Olympian. Over the past few months, she’s side-stepped her way off the tracks and onto the sevens rugby field!
Having only touched a rugby ball for the first time earlier in 2019, “AC Speedstar” as she’s known, is running her new race on grass, and in a pair of rugby boots. She’s had to make a lot of mindset shifts along the way, such as changing from straight-line running to side-stepping, and learning how to decelerate quickly.
Her goal is to make the Africa Cup Squad in Women’s 7s Rugby, and then to advance to the Rugby Sevens at the 2020 Olympics. In episode 5 of Half-Time Chat, she chats to Siv Ngesi about rising again after crippling injuries and sporting disappointment, and about her goal to be an advocate for girls and women in sport.
Quotes from Alyssa's interview with Siv Ngesi:
• I’ve been a sprinter for 21 years and my body is programmed for straight-line running. I needed a new challenge; I needed something that was gonna be hard
• Muscles that I never knew existed are having to wake up!
• I want to be an advocate for women in sport and show the young girls that if I can make a switch from athletics to a team sport at high demand, then they shouldn’t give up on their dreams
• To be the fastest woman on the rugby field – I’d love to get that title at 2020 Olympics
• I’ve always had a thing for the underdog. My switch could bring attention to women’s rugby
• I’ve been racing for 21 years. But the minute I announced the switch there was so much more interest in me and my racing.
Running in your own lane is one thing. Having to change lanes – at speed – is another thing. Fortunately, doing things at speed comes naturally to Alyssa Conley, a former 100m and 200m SA champion sprinter and Rio 2016 Olympian. Over the past few months, she’s side-stepped her way off the tracks and onto the sevens rugby field!
Having only touched a rugby ball for the first time earlier in 2019, “AC Speedstar” as she’s known, is running her new race on grass, and in a pair of rugby boots. She’s had to make a lot of mindset shifts along the way, such as changing from straight-line running to side-stepping, and learning how to decelerate quickly.
Her goal is to make the Africa Cup Squad in Women’s 7s Rugby, and then to advance to the Rugby Sevens at the 2020 Olympics. In episode 5 of Half-Time Chat, she chats to Siv Ngesi about rising again after crippling injuries and sporting disappointment, and about her goal to be an advocate for girls and women in sport.
Quotes from Alyssa's interview with Siv Ngesi:
• I’ve been a sprinter for 21 years and my body is programmed for straight-line running. I needed a new challenge; I needed something that was gonna be hard
• Muscles that I never knew existed are having to wake up!
• I want to be an advocate for women in sport and show the young girls that if I can make a switch from athletics to a team sport at high demand, then they shouldn’t give up on their dreams
• To be the fastest woman on the rugby field – I’d love to get that title at 2020 Olympics
• I’ve always had a thing for the underdog. My switch could bring attention to women’s rugby
• I’ve been racing for 21 years. But the minute I announced the switch there was so much more interest in me and my racing.
26
SEP
Springbok calm, Mr Ref & the Cheslin Kolbe effect
We refuse to speak about the All Blacks, well, maybe a little bit. In the Change Room this week Xola Ntshinga and Johan Coetzee are joined by comedian Shanray van Wyk. The trio laugh their way through the pain of Springbok defeat, suspect calls at the Rugby World Cup, Boks-Namibia showdown and why Cheslin Kolbe is the new standard.
Listen out for...
+ No need to panic: should SA and the Springboks listen to Lood?
+ Suspect calls and "low fives", are we over-judging World Cup refs?
+ SA vs Namibia chance for fringe Boks to make case for 1st team
+ Learning to cope without Trevor Nyakane
+ Half-time Chat with Siv snippet: Seabelo Senatla on Kwagga's Springbok shot and Cheslin Kolbe's impact
+ Blitzboks playing the Olympics long-game
+ Awarding Mr Congeniality at the World Cup...
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
Listen out for...
+ No need to panic: should SA and the Springboks listen to Lood?
+ Suspect calls and "low fives", are we over-judging World Cup refs?
+ SA vs Namibia chance for fringe Boks to make case for 1st team
+ Learning to cope without Trevor Nyakane
+ Half-time Chat with Siv snippet: Seabelo Senatla on Kwagga's Springbok shot and Cheslin Kolbe's impact
+ Blitzboks playing the Olympics long-game
+ Awarding Mr Congeniality at the World Cup...
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
25
SEP
Half-time Chat with Siv & Seabelo Senatla
"I'm not just a try-scoring machine..."
Seabelo Senatla has never been satisfied with being average. The speedster wants to accomplish what few, if any, have achieved: to be a legend in both Sevens and 15s rugby. A record holder in the 7s World Series, Senatla's transition to 15-a-side has not been without its challenges. But those challenges only seem to spur him on to his long-term goal.
In this chat with Siv, Seabelo confirms his unfinished business with the Olympics, his Springbok dream and the real driving force behind his rugby success. This is a story of ongoing change.
Quotes & talking points from Seabelo's interview with Siv Ngesi:
+ "Bigger is not always better"
+ "When my parents wanted to punish me they said I couldn't do sport"
+ Humility: blame it on the parents
+ "I feel like I've never been able to fully build on what I achieved"
+ "This 15s journey has been the most difficult of my career"
+ The goal: wearing green & gold for the Springboks
+ "I'm running on that field for someone else"
+ "I'm not just a try-scoring machine..."
+ "You can't stay the same, you have to evolve
Seabelo Senatla has never been satisfied with being average. The speedster wants to accomplish what few, if any, have achieved: to be a legend in both Sevens and 15s rugby. A record holder in the 7s World Series, Senatla's transition to 15-a-side has not been without its challenges. But those challenges only seem to spur him on to his long-term goal.
In this chat with Siv, Seabelo confirms his unfinished business with the Olympics, his Springbok dream and the real driving force behind his rugby success. This is a story of ongoing change.
Quotes & talking points from Seabelo's interview with Siv Ngesi:
+ "Bigger is not always better"
+ "When my parents wanted to punish me they said I couldn't do sport"
+ Humility: blame it on the parents
+ "I feel like I've never been able to fully build on what I achieved"
+ "This 15s journey has been the most difficult of my career"
+ The goal: wearing green & gold for the Springboks
+ "I'm running on that field for someone else"
+ "I'm not just a try-scoring machine..."
+ "You can't stay the same, you have to evolve
19
SEP
All Blacks vs Springboks & Akona's confession?
It's all about the New Zealand versus South Africa Rugby World Cup Pool B opener. This week Xola Ntshinga and Johan Coetzee are joined by 2007 World Cup winner Akona Ndungane. The former winger shares about what the Springboks will be feeling, Rassie's plan and if he ever stood in for twin brother Odwa at the Sharks.
Listen out for...
+ does it matter who the Boks meet in the quarters?
+ Akona Ndungane: where it all began
+ did Akona ever play for Odwa at the Sharks?
+ "2007 World Cup win brought back the memories of '95"
+ Akona - what will the Boks be feeling before their World Cup opener
+ AB's aside, will Pool B matches prepare the Springboks enough for play-off?
+ Will Jerome Garces be the deciding factor in NZ vs SA?
+ If it rains...
+ Pollard vs Barrett and the battle at 13
+ Springboks buy-in to Rassie's plan
+ Half-time chat with Siv snippet: Corne Krige on rugby's diverse appeal
+ Ox Nche joins the Sharks
+ Was Pierre Spies ahead of his time?
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
Listen out for...
+ does it matter who the Boks meet in the quarters?
+ Akona Ndungane: where it all began
+ did Akona ever play for Odwa at the Sharks?
+ "2007 World Cup win brought back the memories of '95"
+ Akona - what will the Boks be feeling before their World Cup opener
+ AB's aside, will Pool B matches prepare the Springboks enough for play-off?
+ Will Jerome Garces be the deciding factor in NZ vs SA?
+ If it rains...
+ Pollard vs Barrett and the battle at 13
+ Springboks buy-in to Rassie's plan
+ Half-time chat with Siv snippet: Corne Krige on rugby's diverse appeal
+ Ox Nche joins the Sharks
+ Was Pierre Spies ahead of his time?
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
19
SEP
Half-time Chat with Siv & Corne Krige
Half-time Chat with Siv Ngesi is made just for you by BrightRock. In each episode Siv talks to prominent rugby personalities about their rugby journeys and how they deal with change in their lives.
Corne Krige was Springbok captain during one of the most tumultuous periods in South African rugby post-1994. Despite those challenges, the Zambian-born Krige ended his rugby career as a legend in green and gold. Having retired from rugby relatively early at the age 30, Krige has navigated the past 15 years of his life with the same tenacity in which he played the game.
In his sit-down chat with Siv, Corne reflects on the rugby lessons he applies in life and business, not drawing his identity from temporary positions and what true change means for him.
Quotes & talking points from Corne's interview with Siv Ngesi:
+ "Herschelle Gibbs was an absolute freak on the rugby field"
+ "At a time when I needed guidance sport really helped me"
+ "don't attach who you are to rugby, when rugby disappears what's going to happen?"
+ "Business isn't easy, but if you have a good partner it helps"
+ "Rugby should be a game played by people of all shapes and sizes"
+ "In leadership you must be big enough to say sorry ... and make up for your mistakes"
+ "If you don't humble yourself you'll be humbled by the game or by somebody else"
+ Life lessons from the All Blacks
+ "Team environment is always bigger than individual talent"
+ "I still get excited about World Cups"
+ "One's ability to change determines how mature you are"
Corne Krige was Springbok captain during one of the most tumultuous periods in South African rugby post-1994. Despite those challenges, the Zambian-born Krige ended his rugby career as a legend in green and gold. Having retired from rugby relatively early at the age 30, Krige has navigated the past 15 years of his life with the same tenacity in which he played the game.
In his sit-down chat with Siv, Corne reflects on the rugby lessons he applies in life and business, not drawing his identity from temporary positions and what true change means for him.
Quotes & talking points from Corne's interview with Siv Ngesi:
+ "Herschelle Gibbs was an absolute freak on the rugby field"
+ "At a time when I needed guidance sport really helped me"
+ "don't attach who you are to rugby, when rugby disappears what's going to happen?"
+ "Business isn't easy, but if you have a good partner it helps"
+ "Rugby should be a game played by people of all shapes and sizes"
+ "In leadership you must be big enough to say sorry ... and make up for your mistakes"
+ "If you don't humble yourself you'll be humbled by the game or by somebody else"
+ Life lessons from the All Blacks
+ "Team environment is always bigger than individual talent"
+ "I still get excited about World Cups"
+ "One's ability to change determines how mature you are"
12
SEP
Rugby World Cup Smoke & Mirrors
Motshidisi Mohono, Johan Coetzee and Simnikiwe Xabanisa take the reins with just over a week to go to the Rugby World Cup. They remember Chester Williams, talk bizarre tactics and more.
Listen out for:
+ Boks or AB: who had the better RWC build-up
+ Being in Japan better than being on a diet
+ Is Boks conditioning coach Aled Walters SA's secret weapon?
+ RWC weather: more important than you think
+ Half-time chat snippet: Siv Ngesi asks Jean de Villiers how to win a World Cup
+ Currie Cup final: beautiful, messy or what happens in a World Cup year?
+ Admiring Joseph Dweba, Ox Nche and Henco Venter
+ "Ref don't send Brad Thorn off"
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
Listen out for:
+ Boks or AB: who had the better RWC build-up
+ Being in Japan better than being on a diet
+ Is Boks conditioning coach Aled Walters SA's secret weapon?
+ RWC weather: more important than you think
+ Half-time chat snippet: Siv Ngesi asks Jean de Villiers how to win a World Cup
+ Currie Cup final: beautiful, messy or what happens in a World Cup year?
+ Admiring Joseph Dweba, Ox Nche and Henco Venter
+ "Ref don't send Brad Thorn off"
In the Change Room is made just for you by BrightRock in partnership with SuperSport.
12
SEP
Half-time Chat with Siv & Jean de Villiers
Half-time Chat with Siv Ngesi is made just for you by BrightRock. In each episode Siv talks to prominent rugby personalities about their rugby journeys and how they deal with change in their lives.
As far as rugby goes, Jean de Villiers is the epitomy of never giving up. A world cup winner, de Villiers remains at the forefront of rugby having served the game for much of his life. In this candid conversation with Siv, the former Springbok Captain reflects on the silver lining of his injury effected career, dealing with and implementing change, mentorship and the privilege of playing for his country.
Quotes from Jean's interview with Siv Ngesi:
+ "You learn through the losses"
+ "However you think life will pan out it won't happen the way you think it will"
+ "I don't just wanna be Jean de Villiers the former rugby player, I want to define myself as something else too"
+ "I'm extremely privileged to have played a minute part in Siya's story".
+ "Sports speaks to us in a different way"
+ "It's probably the first World Cup where we feel the whole country is behind the team."
+ "Change is constant. Change is needed for people to develop."
+ "No one has ever led just by doing nothing"
As far as rugby goes, Jean de Villiers is the epitomy of never giving up. A world cup winner, de Villiers remains at the forefront of rugby having served the game for much of his life. In this candid conversation with Siv, the former Springbok Captain reflects on the silver lining of his injury effected career, dealing with and implementing change, mentorship and the privilege of playing for his country.
Quotes from Jean's interview with Siv Ngesi:
+ "You learn through the losses"
+ "However you think life will pan out it won't happen the way you think it will"
+ "I don't just wanna be Jean de Villiers the former rugby player, I want to define myself as something else too"
+ "I'm extremely privileged to have played a minute part in Siya's story".
+ "Sports speaks to us in a different way"
+ "It's probably the first World Cup where we feel the whole country is behind the team."
+ "Change is constant. Change is needed for people to develop."
+ "No one has ever led just by doing nothing"
