Gareth Cliff & Gord Laws | Ayahuasca, Near-Death Stories & Fixing Democracy

Gareth tells Gord about the time he did ayahuasca, which naturally spirals into a full swap-meet of near-death experiences and "was that God or just my brain running out of oxygen" moments. Somewhere in there, Gord casually mentions he's sitting on a voting system that could fix democracy, as one does. Then it gets properly philosophical: what happiness actually is, why intelligence and love make being alive so unnecessarily complicated, and the one piece of advice that might actually save your attention span, keep your eyes on what you're building, not on your phone. Heavy stuff, delivered the way only these two can.