
What next? | Young divided and under pressure
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For years, we’ve comforted ourselves with the idea that young people will “save the world.” But is that hope realistic - or an unfair projection? Many young people care deeply about climate, justice and inequality, yet face economic precarity, political disillusionment and shrinking civic space. How can youth today find real agency and meaningful work amid systemic barriers and concentrated power? Hosts Lindsay Hooper and Marc Kahn are joined by:
• Clover Hogan — climate activist and founder of Force of Nature, helping young people turn climate anxiety into action.
• Ravi Naidoo — CEO of the Youth Employment Service (YES) in South Africa, the world’s largest private-sector-funded youth internship programme.
Together, they explore what leadership looks like for a new generation, the myths and realities of youth activism, and how today’s leaders can support young people not just to inherit the future, but to shape it.
• Clover Hogan — climate activist and founder of Force of Nature, helping young people turn climate anxiety into action.
• Ravi Naidoo — CEO of the Youth Employment Service (YES) in South Africa, the world’s largest private-sector-funded youth internship programme.
Together, they explore what leadership looks like for a new generation, the myths and realities of youth activism, and how today’s leaders can support young people not just to inherit the future, but to shape it.
Chapters
- 00:00 Introduction
- 03:00 Waking Up from Complacency
- 18:00 Resilience, Media, and the Power of Youth
- 33:30 Disruption, Narratives, and the Battle for Legitimacy
- 45:30 Rewriting the System: Intergenerational Value & Collective Action





