Is Capitec becoming bigger than a bank? Plus: Protein outgrows the gym

In this episode, Bruce speaks to Graham Lee, CEO of Capitec, about another year of standout growth - but more importantly, how the bank is evolving beyond its traditional model as it scales to 26 million clients and reshapes what modern retail banking looks like in South Africa. Bruce also chats to Jake Axelrod, founder of MetaLab, about rethinking protein - not as a gym supplement, but as an everyday pantry staple - and how a focus on taste, accessibility and brand is unlocking a much broader consumer market. The show also features market commentator David Shapiro discussing why global markets continue to rise despite higher oil prices and geopolitical tensions, and what that means for South Africa. Plus News24 Business editor Helena Wasserman unpacks major policy shifts - from stricter BEE procurement rules to visa reforms and relaxed cross-border regulations - and what they signal for business in the country. This podcast is sponsored by Capitec.To catch every episode, click the follow and subscribe buttons on News24's Spotify, Apple, and YouTube podcast channels. Editions drop on Thursdays at 17:00.