SA politics' Man of the Year - Herman Mashaba looks ahead to 2024 and an ANC-free South Africa

In spite of being written off by pundits, pollsters and most publications - and having its logo removed from voting forms - Herman Mashaba's Action SA still emerged as the big winner in SA's 2021 Local Elections. The party's strong showing only a year after being formed did not surprise everyone - Mashaba delivered a brilliant opening address at the first BizNews Investment Conference in March. His message resonated among those in the room - and tens of thousands who watched the recording. Having achieved the initial objective of ejecting the ANC from governing Gauteng's three major metros, in this podcast Mashaba tells Alec Hogg of Biznews what he and ActionSA will be focusing on during the next two years to achieve a similar exit for the ANC from national rule in 2024.